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		<title>By: Kristie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still pondering as well Theresa... actually I have been a bit of a &#039;scatterbrained&#039; leader these days.  Need to read up on some of the discussion I missed while our computer was in the shop.

For my .02 I would say that you would be an awesome unschooler and Superboy sure fits the bill (as does my Hannah- projects everywhere!!).  But ponder and see what fits for your family especially what fits at this time.  

Great thoughts about goal setting as well.  I want to begin to think about that more with my 13yos who is on the undermotivated side quite frequently!

Kristie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still pondering as well Theresa&#8230; actually I have been a bit of a &#8216;scatterbrained&#8217; leader these days.  Need to read up on some of the discussion I missed while our computer was in the shop.</p>
<p>For my .02 I would say that you would be an awesome unschooler and Superboy sure fits the bill (as does my Hannah- projects everywhere!!).  But ponder and see what fits for your family especially what fits at this time.  </p>
<p>Great thoughts about goal setting as well.  I want to begin to think about that more with my 13yos who is on the undermotivated side quite frequently!</p>
<p>Kristie</p>
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		<title>By: lapazfarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lapazfarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Jove, it makes a lot of sense.
Goal setting is definitely something I need to discuss further with Superboy as he enters his teen years. I definitely don&#039;t want to have to be setting his goals for him when he reaches high school (hoping for more independence by then) so I think it is wise to start planting those seeds now. The way Angela has done that with Reagan is a great inspiration to me.
I do have a tough time letting go of &quot;the things I think he should learn,&quot; or my own goals for him. That is hard, hard, hard. Perhaps because I have not yet thoroughly convinced myself that I should?
Still pondering...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Jove, it makes a lot of sense.<br />
Goal setting is definitely something I need to discuss further with Superboy as he enters his teen years. I definitely don&#8217;t want to have to be setting his goals for him when he reaches high school (hoping for more independence by then) so I think it is wise to start planting those seeds now. The way Angela has done that with Reagan is a great inspiration to me.<br />
I do have a tough time letting go of &#8220;the things I think he should learn,&#8221; or my own goals for him. That is hard, hard, hard. Perhaps because I have not yet thoroughly convinced myself that I should?<br />
Still pondering&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jove</title>
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		<dc:creator>jove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve not been reading here for a while and have just come back. Need to subscribe to the feed.

I&#039;ve been following a lot of this wider discussion at Lissa&#039;s and elsewhere. And I think that when we say that unschooling doesn&#039;t work, we are often saying &quot;they are meeting the educational goals I have for them on their own&quot;. But what we need to do is look at their own goals. And then the picture looks a lot different.

Which links a bit to what Angela said above. Her Reagan is older than your Superboy and Angela has helped her learn how to set goals and such, which enables her to have discussions with REagan about goals and then unschool around that. I&#039;ve tried to incorporate into whatever I&#039;m doing some of that teaching Tigger how to set and reach goals. And maybe that is one of the things you need to think about in terms of the direction you give.

But I think it definitely can work and the key is in looking at what is going on in a different frame. Not checking whether they have learned the things you thought they should, but figuring out what they have learned. Does that make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not been reading here for a while and have just come back. Need to subscribe to the feed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been following a lot of this wider discussion at Lissa&#8217;s and elsewhere. And I think that when we say that unschooling doesn&#8217;t work, we are often saying &#8220;they are meeting the educational goals I have for them on their own&#8221;. But what we need to do is look at their own goals. And then the picture looks a lot different.</p>
<p>Which links a bit to what Angela said above. Her Reagan is older than your Superboy and Angela has helped her learn how to set goals and such, which enables her to have discussions with REagan about goals and then unschool around that. I&#8217;ve tried to incorporate into whatever I&#8217;m doing some of that teaching Tigger how to set and reach goals. And maybe that is one of the things you need to think about in terms of the direction you give.</p>
<p>But I think it definitely can work and the key is in looking at what is going on in a different frame. Not checking whether they have learned the things you thought they should, but figuring out what they have learned. Does that make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: mrs darling</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrs darling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it might work for you guys. It wouldnt work here because my daughter is not self motivated but from the pics and all of things your kids are doing I do think it could work there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it might work for you guys. It wouldnt work here because my daughter is not self motivated but from the pics and all of things your kids are doing I do think it could work there.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so much what has been happening here too Theresa, great post!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so much what has been happening here too Theresa, great post!!</p>
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		<title>By: lapazfarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lapazfarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, Christine! I loved your post about strewing (did you see the link?). It REALLY got my wheels turning about how I could do things differently this time around.
I will try and put together a post about some of your questions, most especially how I determine if something is working or not with Superboy.
As for the Montessori,&lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/montessoriworld/mwei/default.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; MWEI &lt;/a&gt;is a good place to start. I&#039;ll try to get some Montessori links up on my sidebar, as I get asked about them quite often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, Christine! I loved your post about strewing (did you see the link?). It REALLY got my wheels turning about how I could do things differently this time around.<br />
I will try and put together a post about some of your questions, most especially how I determine if something is working or not with Superboy.<br />
As for the Montessori,<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/montessoriworld/mwei/default.htm" rel="nofollow"> MWEI </a>is a good place to start. I&#8217;ll try to get some Montessori links up on my sidebar, as I get asked about them quite often.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow, Theresa!  Love this post!  I find it so interesting that you and I seem to be finding ourselves in the same &quot;place&quot; right now.  I too have been mulling and musing about the workability for unschooling for my children.  And thinking (yet again) about what&#039;s worked and hasn&#039;t worked in the past).  I&#039;ve been giving much thought to active unschooling (where the kids are interested and engaged and mom is actively a part of facilitating their learning/doing when needed) versus unschooling by default (which is how we usually end up doing it around here and which does not have good results for any of us).  I&#039;ve had two posts in mind which I hope to get to write soon.  One about the topic in my last sentence and one where I delve into the pros and cons of unschooling as I see them for our family (or even for each child in my family).  Thanks for some great food for thought.  

A couple of questions... First, from your posts it really does seem that your way of schooling with Superboy (the project-based, notebooking, etc.) really does work with him.  Could you explain the ways it doesn&#039;t and how you know when it&#039;s not working?  Do you think that he would still incorporate some of this stuff naturally by choice if you were to unschool?  

And, I have a newly one-year old who is quickly becoming a very active toddler.  I&#039;ve really enjoyed reading your posts depicting your little guys doing Montessori activities and wonder how young they can start doing some of these and how I would begin learning about some of the activities for the littlest ones (good beginner websites?).  Just wanting to start doing some research now for the upcoming couple of years.  Thanks!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow, Theresa!  Love this post!  I find it so interesting that you and I seem to be finding ourselves in the same &#8220;place&#8221; right now.  I too have been mulling and musing about the workability for unschooling for my children.  And thinking (yet again) about what&#8217;s worked and hasn&#8217;t worked in the past).  I&#8217;ve been giving much thought to active unschooling (where the kids are interested and engaged and mom is actively a part of facilitating their learning/doing when needed) versus unschooling by default (which is how we usually end up doing it around here and which does not have good results for any of us).  I&#8217;ve had two posts in mind which I hope to get to write soon.  One about the topic in my last sentence and one where I delve into the pros and cons of unschooling as I see them for our family (or even for each child in my family).  Thanks for some great food for thought.  </p>
<p>A couple of questions&#8230; First, from your posts it really does seem that your way of schooling with Superboy (the project-based, notebooking, etc.) really does work with him.  Could you explain the ways it doesn&#8217;t and how you know when it&#8217;s not working?  Do you think that he would still incorporate some of this stuff naturally by choice if you were to unschool?  </p>
<p>And, I have a newly one-year old who is quickly becoming a very active toddler.  I&#8217;ve really enjoyed reading your posts depicting your little guys doing Montessori activities and wonder how young they can start doing some of these and how I would begin learning about some of the activities for the littlest ones (good beginner websites?).  Just wanting to start doing some research now for the upcoming couple of years.  Thanks!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the idea of unschooling but must admit I have never done it for more than a week.  You guys do so much awesome stuff and have so many resources that it would probably be great.  I also think there are seasons in homeschooling just as in life.  So it might be just perfect for you with a move coming up and all.  I would never call you a slacker mom.
Blessings,
Dawn
www.homeschoolblogger.com/my4sweetums</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of unschooling but must admit I have never done it for more than a week.  You guys do so much awesome stuff and have so many resources that it would probably be great.  I also think there are seasons in homeschooling just as in life.  So it might be just perfect for you with a move coming up and all.  I would never call you a slacker mom.<br />
Blessings,<br />
Dawn<br />
<a href="http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/my4sweetums" rel="nofollow">http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/my4sweetums</a></p>
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		<title>By: Angela, MotherCrone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela, MotherCrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you most certainly can do it.  Most importantly, remember that since the success/failure rate is about the same, don&#039;t feel guilty about shifting in and out of methods as you are inspired. 

 I find that what works best for Reagan is to come up with a general educational plan that we start the year with for the first half of the year.  We may list a dozen definite learning goals, with any number of ideas branching from them.  Along the way, we follow lots of rabbit trails, and take advantage of any number of methods.  As long as we hit the definite goals, we go with the flow.  We rework things and do the same thing over holiday break.  

I can&#039;t wait to see where it all takes you! BTW...Reagan told me to mention both dryer lint and pine cones as firestarter helps to Superboy.  The girl has been experimenting with making homemade and earth friendly alternatives to fireplace logs.   Can you imagine the bonfire if those two ever met up?LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you most certainly can do it.  Most importantly, remember that since the success/failure rate is about the same, don&#8217;t feel guilty about shifting in and out of methods as you are inspired. </p>
<p> I find that what works best for Reagan is to come up with a general educational plan that we start the year with for the first half of the year.  We may list a dozen definite learning goals, with any number of ideas branching from them.  Along the way, we follow lots of rabbit trails, and take advantage of any number of methods.  As long as we hit the definite goals, we go with the flow.  We rework things and do the same thing over holiday break.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see where it all takes you! BTW&#8230;Reagan told me to mention both dryer lint and pine cones as firestarter helps to Superboy.  The girl has been experimenting with making homemade and earth friendly alternatives to fireplace logs.   Can you imagine the bonfire if those two ever met up?LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: lapazfarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lapazfarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca, that is very much the way I see it as well. I think our Montessori experiences will be a great preparation for unschooling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca, that is very much the way I see it as well. I think our Montessori experiences will be a great preparation for unschooling.</p>
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